Mariame Kaba talks to us about the campaign to free Bresha Meadows, a 15 year old who is currently in prison for defending herself and her family against her abusive father. Sheena Hoszko talked to us about her recent article in MICE magazine about Peter Collins on how his art kept him in prison. CeCe MacDonald, a Black trans woman who spent time in jail for defending herself against a transphobic attack talks to This Way Out about her story and why she is against prison.