I'm pleased to welcome back Shaun Chamberlin from the UK, after his arrest at the Extinction Rebellion action. Shaun advised groups from Chelsea Green Publishing to the UK Department of Energy and Climate Change. He co-authored a report to Parliament & co-founded Transition Town Kingston. Shaun heads the Fleming Policy Centre, and continues his seminal blog "Dark Optimism". We talk about... everything.
Interview by Alex Smith of Radio Ecoshock
Sample clips from "What If", Spanner Films & from "The Age of Stupid revisited: whats changed on climate change?" by theguardian.uk
In the Affiliates version, there is a break and re-intro at 26:41 for stations needing to insert station ID or announcements.